minutes 9/10/92

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Minutes of the SAGE working group on Sept. 10, 1992 at SRI, Menlo Park, CA

Note: 	Action items are highlighted with an * in the left margin.

Attendees:  Elizabeth Zwicky, Tina Darmohray, Paul Evans
            Arnold de Leon, Laura Kirk de Leon,
            Arch Mott, Bryan McDonald

Via phone: Pat Wilson, Steve Simmons

Absent:  Bjorn Satdeva, Shoshana Abrass, Paul Moriarty, John Detke

1)  Approval of the minutes

    	Minutes of the last meeting were approved.

2) Is SAGE drifting away from what it set out to do?

	It was agreed that is is drifting away from what we originally
	had in mind.  It was suggested that we stress at the USENIX/LISA 
	conference that SAGE is a professional society.  Also that we encourage 
	local groups. 

3)  Budget

	Elizabeth stated that our budget was still in flux as many
	large portions of it were yet to be determined as they are
	dependent on the USENIX budget (e.g. SAGE's portion of the
	USENIX office costs).  However, the SAGE travel budget for
	officers getting to meetings was set at $4K.  There was 
	concern that this is very small do be distributed over all
	SAGE officers for ~4 meetings/year.  It was agreed that we would
	like the travel budget to be increased, within the constraint
	that we be able to keep SAGE membership fee to $30.
	
4)  STG document and bylaws

	A general feeling that this document is cumbersome was expressed.

	There was a long discussion on the STG terms that referred to
	local groups.

	It was decided that further discussion on the STG might best
	be done via email.

*	Pat Wilson volunteered to number the document and post it so
	that comments by the group could be made via email and referenced
	by page/paragraph number.

*	(Brave?) Board members are to go over the document and use email
	to submit comments/questions/concerns/changes.
	
5)  Working group status

	EDZ reports that SAGE-jobs, SAGE-security, and SAGE-policy
	have shown some traffic lately.

6)  SAGE BOF at U.LISA

	Elizabeth and Laura (if she attends) volunteered to run the
	BOF at U.LISA.

6) Misc.

        The next meeting is Sept. 22.

Submitted by: Tina Darmohray