minutes 11/24/92

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Minutes of the SAGE working group on Nov. 24, 1992 at SRI, Menlo Park, CA

Note: 	Action items are highlighted with an * in the left margin.

Attendees:  Elizabeth Zwicky, Tina Darmohray, Paul Evans
            Arnold de Leon, Laura Kirk de Leon,
            Bjorn Satdeva  Arch Mott, Bryan McDonald
            Paul Moriarty, John Detke 

Via phone: Pat Wilson 

Absent:  Shoshana Abrass, Steve Simmons

0)  Elizabeth brought up the unfortunate fact that the
    SAGE Election material had been mailed with Steve Simmons'
    statement printed as his own and also as Pat Wilson's.

    There was some discussion of the best way to rectify this,
    with the preference being:
	
	Send a complete second ballot with a change in color
	of that ballot and count second ballots.  Additionally,
	change the election counting to Jan. 8th.

	N.B. (Elizabeth's subsequent email is enclosed here to
        reflect what was done as we were unaware of the short
	turn-around mailing option at the time of the meeting.)

>Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 14:18:49 -0800
>From: Elizabeth Zwicky <zwickyerg.sri.com>
>To: sage-boardusenix.org
>Subject: Revised election materials
>Sender: sage-wheel-ownerusenix.org
>Status: RO
>
>
>I talked to Carolyn again; the election materials were sent out at
>5:20 yesterday, and they can send out a revised page by that time
>today, with a cover letter and a sticker. This is so much
>less trouble than trying to reprint the same ballot, and they
>will arrive so close together, that I said she should just do that.
>
>	Elizabeth


1)  Approval of the minutes

    	Minutes of the last 2 meetings were approved.

2)  STG/LTG document and bylaws

	It was agreed that the present STG/LTG document was not really
	usable.

	The board discussed several points:

		What kind of local/international groups there might be
		What SAGE gets from them/they get from SAGE
			name lists
			insurance
		SAGE shouldn't have too much central control

	It was agreed that if a local group wanted to form that
	it should go something like this:

		They inquire to SAGE
		SAGE has a default/boilerplate proposal that includes:
			charter, bylaws, officers
			(Note: there will be at least 3 officers in the local
			group and they will be members of SAGE.)
		The proposed group uses the default proposal or
		  modifies it
		The proposed group presents their proposal for approval
		  to the Board.

*	Bjorn will summarize this discussion and post to SAGE-locals
	as there are some locals wanting to form now.

3)  January USENIX

	There will be a SAGE Board meeting Tuesday.
	There will be an open SAGE Board meeting Wed. during the dinner hour.
	There will be a BOF after the open SAGE Board meeting Wed.; Steve
	  Simmons runs a good BOF.

4)  MISC 

*	EDZ will get USENIX to send her the updated SAGE membership so that
	the SAGE mailing list can be updated.

	There was discussion that the email re: USENIX/SAGE representatives
	to WCSAS was unclear.  
*	EDZ will send mail to Ellie and Alan Paller letting them know that 2 
	(new) SAGE representatives to the WCSAS will be identified 
	after the SAGE elections.  
	If USENIX also identifies Tom C./Rob K. that would be separate from SAGE 
	representatives.

        The next meeting is Dec. 8.

Submitted by: Tina Darmohray