Re: [SAGE] CISSP Certification Penetration?

[Jeff Tyler <jeff@jthome.jthome.com>]

"Mark C. Langston says:"
> 
(OP choped)
> 
> 
> Indeed.  From what I've seen, the "must have worked in security capacity
> for X years, must be vouched for by existing CISSP" requirement is being
> handily sidestepped these days, demonstrating that it's possible to turn
> pretty much anything into a purely paper certification.
> 
> (NOTE:  Just checked current requirements.  Seems they changed, or I
> misremembered them:  4 years' field work, or 1 year + degree, and
> vouchsafing by another CISSP or your employer or "another certified
> professional".)

Look again Mark, it's 4 years direct experience or 3 years direct
experience plus a degree.  Both require vetting by a CISSP or
"another certified professional".  Again, speaking as one who has
"stood up" for candidates I'm pretty picky.  Protecting my property
value ;-)

> 
> So, it looks to be just another 250-question multiple-guess cert, with
> a relatively high test cost ($450 or so).

Well, there is also an audit process for "selected" applicants.  I
know, I was audited and yes, they do check in some depth.

> 
> 
> To address the original poster's question, this means, in my mind, that
> the penetration will increase.  Now that anyone can cram and get one,
> and now that they're becoming prevalent as a hiring criterion, you'll
> see more of them (and the cert will be devalued as folks flock to get
> it).

Not sure I follow that, there is still a strong personal experience
requirement.  I'm not saying that an unqualified person can not get
a CISSP, given the existence of boot camps and the like there is
always the danger that a few folks who test well and know little
can slip through but I think on the whole that we defend the
certification pretty well.


Regards ... JT

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