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Re: [SAGE] CommVault Galaxy backup software?



I haven't used Commvault but I have used Bakbone that apparently came from the same group in AT&T, it recently beat Bakbone in the usual suspects reviews due to more features.

I also know a guy who was a Bakbone expert who went to work for Commvault without difficulty in transitioning because the products were so similar  albeit Commvault has a  nicer interface at  present.

Two years ago were were looking for a replacement to Legato Networker (8.X  I think  possibly  8.6 but my memory isn't that great).

We found Legato almost unusable, the guy who went on the course was the only one who could use it because it had so many weird and wonderful quirks at that time that the rest of us just could deal with at the time e.g. The backup client was separate from the restore client and the support payments if you were off maintenance were extortionate! I recall someone quoting $2.5K+ just for Legato to even look the problem with zero guarantee of a fix or them to even work on the call.

We wanted something more user friendly and intuitive, so we looked at Netbackup, Tivoli Storage manager and Bakbone. Due to the initially very strong desire for "Ease of use" after using Legato, we kind of ruled out Netbackup (it was then owned Veritas rather than Symantec) because it wasn't like BackupExec (Really easy to use but geared to Windows OS based systems mostly) so we thought it would have too much in common with Legato and it didn't have enough features at the time e.g. MacOS support, Synthetic backups (Consolidation) and MySQL support. We also have a number of Network Appliance Filers so we need NDMP support (that was the reason why we initially got Legato).

Knowing what I know now, I wish I had gone with Veritas/Symantec Netbackup for a number of reasons:
  • Bakbone pulled out all the stops for us and we had a brilliant Account Management team that where was always helpful and eager to help us until the time that all they both *left* Bakbone due to Internal issues within the Company's management, direction and product marketing and strategy, We also had major issues as well due to the lack of resourcing on products that we (and the market) actually needed today rather than products that they wanted to flog us that incidentally others had done well before and way better. Let me say there is nothing (and I mean nothing!) more sorrowful that a pre-sales team trying to sell you something that their Executive Management are pushing them to sell that they know in their hearts, minds and souls is crap, you could literally see their souls being destroyed, ever hear the saying "A great product sells itself?" We'll a great product doesn't take a salesman, it only takes someone who believes the product is the best, well it's was like their belief in the greatness of their product was crumbling before your very eyes!
  • If Commvault is anything like Bakbone you will soon realise an amazing difference between what is "Sold" and what is actually usable in the product.
  • It was amazingly difficult to get easy and transparent pricing for Tivoli Storage Manager, the Vendor I went through wouldn't give me any straight pricing on example scenarios e.g. What if I just wanted to backup a Microsoft SQL Server and a Linux Apache Web Server, how much would that cost?
  • Netbackup is a industry leader even though it may not be the best, nicest, most technically advanced, state of the art with the latest features (and I don't know any of these things personally, i.e. for all I know it's the best thing since sliced bread) and shiny, most jobs/people seem to know it so there must be some good reason why you can throw a brick out the window at a backup specialists and odds on he knows Netbackup, I even know some managed backup outsourcing services who only deal with Netbackup i.e. They built their whole business model around providing managed Netbackup services, now that's trust!

I have to balance this all with some comments though:
  • Commvault is available through Dell as a selectable option for all Servers so it must have something serious going for it (or an fantastic resellers commission), though if you do the Mercenary/Marketable skills penetration test e.g. search through Dice.com today you will see the following:
      • Netbackup: 549 Hits
      • Backup Exec: 138 hits
      • Networker: 111 hits
      • Commvault: 75 hits
      • Retrospect: 9 hits
      • Bakbone: 8
      • Arkeia: 1
    • If I was either a: managing a team or b: wanting an easily transferable backup skill I'd would go for Netbackup for the following reasons:
  1. Odds on I'd have a larger pool of people to choose from if I opted for Netbackup because it's the backup skill in demand re; the Cisco effect
  2. If I wanted to look for a new role as a backup specialist I'd have a lot more roles to choose from.
  • They have some great features listed on their portfolio i.e.
    • Single Instance Storage - i.e. File De-duplication only one copy of the same data stored on Virtual Tape Library instead of multiple copies of the same data.
    • Recently refocused on a MSP (Managed Service Provider) Programme to make Commvault more attractive to vendors who wish to supply Managed Backup Services using Commvault, so they are trying to make a big push into the software as a service market provider space where the volumes are a lot higher.
Cheers

-Martin

John Stoffel wrote:
Hi all,

Is anyone here running CommVault Galaxy backup software?  We're
investigating a move from Legato, but I'm personally not wild about
it, esp since it means moving to Windows Server 2003 as the main
server platform.  

I know my anti-Windows bias is showing here, but it's hard to get rid
of it.

Anyway, I found a couple of forums and mailing lists, but they were
all very low volume with out anything useful on there.  Something like
the networker mailing list would be great.

Thanks,
John